i gotta add that i thought about it a bit and i only paid 10 dollars more at nashbar. i lucked out with the discount code and only paid 135 plus shipping...two day to be exact thereby landing the price firmly at $171. and i have to add....i love these wheels man. besides being fixed free(adding stress of possibly messing up threads...) the mavic cxp22 rims have a slight and noticable split where the rim is joined up. its minor but anoying.