Old 08-15-21, 10:38 AM
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scubaman
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Both of these would surely be lovely. I personally prefer 853, all else comparable, because it's fairly light, feels good to ride, and it's pretty much bulletproof. A decent 853 frame should last approximately forever, even with the odd scrape or ding. Carbon, not so much.

(My gravel/bikepacking bike is 853.)
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