Originally Posted by
Nyah
I get perineum pain from the B17 even when the top of the drop-bars is level with the top of the seat. As an alternative, I got a C17 w/cutout, which was better but not perfect. After that, I wondered if I really needed such a wide saddle in the first place. I next tried a C15 w/cutout, which has been the best so far. I even ride with the seat higher than the top of the drop-bars now. I prefer the C15 w/cutout enough that I bought a second one for a new bicycle that I'm putting together.
The seat is too high or your reach is too great if you get perineum pain. It doesn't matter if your seat is level with the bars. If your seat is slightly too high, you will get pain.