Originally Posted by Maelochs

[MENTION=484173]downhillmaster[/MENTION] .... I don't believe you believe what you are posting.

Simple, obvious flaw---EVERYBODY can fix a flat if they have two working hands and half a working brain. You are comparing changing a tube---something about as hard as urinating without wetting yourself---with advanced computer or network repair. Obviously you had to learn a good bit before you could help set up people with a home network---it wasn't something anyone could learn in three minut6es from any of a hundred YouTube videos (if they didn't learn as kids.)

As I believe it was [MENTION=484412]livedarklions[/MENTION] stated, the equivalent here is that someone kept calling you to turn on his or her computer, after you had shown the person where the On button was located it, and even highlighted it with a bit of colored tape. Not rocket science---not even computer science. Something anyone could learn by paying attention once.

Also, it doesn't matter if the poster calls one person 13 times or different people each time. it is still selfishness. He could five or ten minutes roadside doing what he is going to do back home anyway---but instead asks a friend to drive half a an hour pick him up, put his bike in the car, drive him half an hour home .... because the poster in question thinks his time is too important to be spent changing a tire roadside.

Not that he won't change a tire, he will---as soon as someone spends an hour chauffeurring him around for free.

You understand all this .... so I figure you are just trolling too. No problem.

And another exaggeration on your part: No one is shaming Anyone for occasionally needing a ride. I myself have admitted that I have needed a ride three times while cycling, and once while driving (which I didn't mention because I didn't find it germane.) The difference is that in none of those cases was I able to fix my own problems, and in none of those cases was I able to fix my own problems because I simply didn't want to help myself if I could get someone else to do a lot more work to help me.

You understand this too .... which is more evidence that you just want to stir things up.

Certain BF posters have very broad and generous views .... and we have clearly explained our perspectives, and clearly explained why your analogy is not relevant. As they said in the Old West, though ... you can lead a mule to water but you can't make him think.