I didn't mention the frames I broke (not on tour). I think I wrecked a few bikes as a kid including my teen years, but no longer remember details. Since then I only remember two. The first was a mountain bike that was fillet brazed steel. The headset bearing was driven into the bottom of the head tube flareing it out all sloppy and eggy. I figure the brazing was poorly done and annealed the tube to a soft state. I was supposed to be a decent tube set. The second was a aluminum fork that was broken in a hard crash into a car at speed. A lady at the last second decided there was an opening and sped out from a stop sign in front of me. I did my superman impersonation flying over the car. I got an ambulance ride and the bike got a ride in a cop car to the police station. The bike got a new fork and has since racked up a ton of mileage including a ST tour and a bunch of commuting.