I am not necessarily looking for values for these, but more just opinions if these look any good.
This Peugeot has been up for a while at $30, I know the frame material isn't that popular, but I want a Peugeot because I'm partial to their color schemes and logos honestly.
I think it would clean up if the bottom bracket is just dirty, but I can't get any information about the frame size from the seller. My road bike is a 21" from center of the bottom bracket to top of the seat tube and 21" from the head tube to the seat tube. I could get away with 21" frames, but the top tube length is more important, since I have Bianchi that is a 21" frame, but a 19" top tube, which is way to small for me.
The other one is a 1986 or 7 raleigh grand prix, and has been up for probably a month or two at $60 and looks like it needs a fair bit more work, but is a 700c wheels I think, the ad says both 27" and 700c for some reason,and has forged dropouts, which would make any potential plans I have a bit easier if I want to switch up the drive train or tires. But the bottle cage being taped on leads me to think it might have stripped cage screws, and with that suspension seat post, I'd be worried about it using the wrong seat post for the frame, and maybe just clamped down on a smaller tube.
I can't get the sellers to tell me the sizes and either one is a bit out of the way so I'm stuck. I have not ridden a 54 or 56 cm frame, but with my height, I think either should be fine as long as the top tube is 21" or a bit longer. Does the Peugeot look at be at least a 54cm? The Raleigh looks bigger but I can't tell if it would be too large. I know just looking at pictures isn't a good way to judge size, but it's worth a try.