Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 724
Likes: 511
From: Redmond, WA & Bangkok, Thailand
Bikes: 1999 Giant ATX MTB, 2002 Lemond Zurich, 2018 Fuji Transonic 2.3, 2019 Specialized Tarmac Disc Expert
I've never used a kickstand except when I was a very young boy and all dept. store bikes came with them. I'm good with whatever makes it easy for people. For me, I just lean my bike up against things. On my mtn bike if there's nothing to lean it up against I just lay it down on the ground. Have done that when touring with saddlebags too.