A comment about Bob Jackson, he visited the shop I worked at in 1974, he spoke to one of the workers at length who had played with frame building, (I got to listen) when asked about how the frames were fixtured when brazing, he said they were not, that the BB shell was set in a vise and they brazed away, I knew right then what had happened to my frame, too much vise on the BB shell.

He also did a fitting for me, interesting as his numbers have been verified by myself and others continually thereafter. No, did not order a bike, but was tempted to order a 753 as only the top builders there were allowed to mess with the stuff.