Thanks !! ! I will be posting a build thread once I get all the parts so there will be a nice long thread in March hopefully. I can get a full rim brake Dura Ace group set for about 2 K and have found them in stock in a few places. I probably am gonna go with this because I have always wanted a DA bike and I did say "dream bike". I would also like it to be lighter than my Domane ...just because : )