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Old 12-25-21 | 10:00 AM
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I don't see any difference in the nose hardware between the saddles posted by [MENTION=143357]Force[/MENTION] and [MENTION=173992]non-fixie[/MENTION]. Force's has been adjusted almost to the end, and someone put a nut on the end of the shackle bolt for reasons best known to himself.

But look again at this photo of Force's saddle:



The bag loops, as [MENTION=51443]Big_B[/MENTION]lock mentioned, are punched through the leather rather than incorporated into the frame (as they did on later saddles). They are reinforced from the underside by a thin steel sheet that is locked to the leather by the eyelets in the bag loops; each steel sheet has a tab that goes up under the cantle plate, where it is bent over to support the weight of the saddle bag. You can see this in the photo-- it is missing in non-fixie's saddle.

[MENTION=143357]Force[/MENTION], are your bag loop eyelets brass?
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