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Old 02-04-22 | 06:47 PM
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Bikes: Motobecane C41, Matsu$hita Nashonaru

Originally Posted by due ruote
Interesting. I have a 1978 Team Champion (Columbus SL) and the Venn overlaps are these:
Bocama lugs with cutouts.
Color (Brilliant Blue).
Huret dropouts (mine lack the eyelets).
Fork crown/reinforcements/chrome appears identical.
Top tube cable guides are identical.

Among the differences I see:
Stay caps are flat on this bike; mine are concave.
Stay ends at the dropout are rounded; mine are fish-mouth.
This bike has cable guides on the BB; mine uses a clamp-on guide (although the 78 catalog indicates they should be brazed on).

So I would say it's clearly not a TC, but whatever it is, it's quite nice. The fender eyelets are a bonus in my opinion.
The colour is great. I'm going to do my best to keep it and focus on touching up as opposed to full repaint. I don't know what these guys at Motobecane were using to paint their bikes, but it's better than almost enything I've seen riding around town. I had to repaint my previous one (no chance for saving the paint, too much damage) and it looks good, but original Motobecane paint is in a league of its own.
I have a 1979 C5 (European equivalent of TC) frame, which came to me in a pretty bad shape and still requires sending off to a frame builder for some repairs. Huret dropouts the same style, minus eyelets, chromed fork crown (the whole fork is actually chromed underneath the paint, which I suspect is the case with the blue one as well). It has both derailleur cable guides on the BB shell and the same lugs. Differences, other than eyelets: different seat stay caps, different style seat stay bridge. And, as mentioned, no eyelets.
My previous Grand Sprint had no eyelets either (and no BB cable guides, which I actually prefer), I was using chromed and rubberised P clamps. Hence mudguard on the blue still looks wonky, I transplanted all the components from the previous frame (which will be built up with nearly all French / Swiss components except for the seat post) and didn't have the time to adjust the mudguards properly yet. P clamps are a decent enough solution, but I definitely prefer to just use the eyelets.
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