I agree. But I always found that it worked best if I added fuel to it before I lit it, and that meant removing the wind screen/pot support, and the skate key on the key chain was inconvenient to thread into the right hole with replacing the screen. And the windscreen really was not much of a windscreen. That said I used mine a lot.

I preferred the older version that did not have the built in jet cleaning needle, it primed faster. But I recall camping with someone that had a clogged jet, I asked her where her jet cleaning needle was, she said that there was some silver thing that she did not know what it did to she chucked it. Needless to say her stove did not work very well.

I camped a lot with a friend that had an 8R, we liked that over the Svea and he had the external pump for it too.

That said, the Svea with a Sigg Tourist cookset was better than the 8R.