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Old 02-13-22 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
The number of parts is irrelevant. There are many examples of industry innovators that are no longer on the cutting edge of product development. It's pretty common for competitors to adopt those innovations and improve upon them, and then add innovations of their own.
Again, you are off base, the cold working technique that Lynskey created and patented is a technique that is still being used today by all TI builders, with no innovations done to it since it can't be improved upon.

The expensive builders say they have innovations but when you look those innovations it's just word games, like Seven says they have customization, ok, all that is about is to build a bike based on your fit needs, not much innovation there that custom steel builders haven't been doing! Then they mention the 7-process methodology, under big bang wiz wording that means nothing in concern as to how a Ti frame is built, all it is is individualization and quality assurance...big deal.

Sturdy cycles says they produce parts using cold metal fusion, nothing new there either, it's what Lynskey created, except Sturdy used a 3D printing process now for certain TI parts, the same thing that Moots does. Some Ti builders will brag about their length of time building TI frames, one said as much as 10 years! WOW!! 10 full years!!!...oh wait, I'm getting too excited about 10 years, Lynskey has 36 years' experience with the cold process, dwarfing all others.

So, ALL these other TI builders have not done anything to innovate the process that Lynskey patented.

Titanium has a reduced carbon footprint compared to carbon fiber, can be recycled at the end of its life, and titanium doesn't corrode.
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