Last September I purchased a set of Hed Ardennes RA Performance disc wheels. I like them very much, internal width just under 21mm, but run them with latex tubes. 27mm Open Pave clinchers measure out to 29.1 mm on these rims. I would prefer a quieter rear hub, but it is not a big deal. I had ordered a set of Ardennes Pro rim brake wheels that were on sale, but also on backorder, and came to my senses and canceled the order. I would like to have the wheels, but just do not need them. I definitely would definitely recommend to another rider, high quality wheels that look really good. I like the dark, low visual impact decals on the rims.