Originally Posted by rekmeyata

Dude, I never said I wanted to run those tires, I'm simply providing reviews that say that those tires aren't as bad as you, or your crowd of people you know that use or used them say they are, that's all. There is no mention on that review of using them to skid with, I doubt on a road tire there would be that much rubber and keeping it under 500 grams that it would be of much use to skid with, the review also said they had great traction in the rain, and regular surface traction improved a lot over a few break in miles, crap the Schwalbe Marathon HS440 weighs around 600 grams. I think for the money if someone is looking for a long-lasting puncture resistant tire without spending $60 a tire for it would not go wrong with a set of WTB ThickSlick tires for $65 for a PAIR. Besides, ALL highly puncture resistant tires with high mileage rubber will suck at rolling resistance. So, tires like that are designed for the commuter who wants to have as few flats as possible, so they're willing to give up weight and rolling resistance to achieve that, and some may want to achieve that without spending a lot of money to do so, now they have that option.