Originally Posted by
rekmeyata
This is not true either, pit locks can be easily overcome by
https://forum.cyclinguk.org/viewtopi...2&start=15pros.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-yBxAEMCsw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90J9_BIEInI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS6mOXWx5mA
Pitlocks, and Thorn don't like them?
This stuff is all over the internet and on YouTube how to defeat these locks, it's not a big deal to do it.
So a thief will have a choice to make, defeat the lock and take the bike and work on the pitlocks at home, or move on to a bike with less hassle.
Again, the best way to protect your expensive bike at work or at college etc., is simply DO NOT ride that bike to those places that place your bike at risk! Simply buy a cheap used bike for $250 or so and take that instead, and don't ever bother washing it, the dirtier it looks the less likely it would get stolen, then buy a cheap $45 locking system and call it a day.
Knowing how argumentative you're going to get about this, I'm not going to respond to you on your follow ups, my information is for those that are thinking that a pitlock, or pinlock, will save their components, they won't.
You're having a hard time understanding the point I'm making (which others seem to grasp right away). It's not an "absolute" thing but
relative to the bikes available to the thief. You also don't have any explanation for why I've been able to keep a bike for 20 years (2 bikes in the last 10 epic bike stealing years) at major urban university without a single attempt or problem. You claim it won't work but it has. It's hard to argue with success but you seem to want to. Ok..... I know it's hard to accept alternative solutions sometimes.
The reality is that most bikes stolen are taken for a quick turn on cash for illicit sale to often support a drug habit. When you lock it
more securely than the bikes around you, and when there has to be a time and maybe money investment in making your bike sellable, guess what? They pick another bike. Very few bikes get double locked. Far fewer bikes get double locked
and have high quality pit locks. Virtually no thieves will invest money in new seat bolts, skewers or other parts that they need to put the bike back together after the science project of taking it apart. The deterrent to theft is inconvenience with respect to other alternatives.
FWIW, the pit locks that I use and advocated for I don't believe are any of those you listed. There are many brands of these and some of them can be easily defeated with a vice grips. Those are not the ones that I have. Choose wisely.
Yes, true - if you absolutely don't want your bike stolen, keep it with you at all times. There are a lot of times when that's not possible. For those times, there's some pretty good solutions. It is most definitely not a case that there is no locking strategy that works. But, as always, you do you.