Originally Posted by
JohnJ80
You're having a hard time understanding the point I'm making (which others seem to grasp right away). It's not an "absolute" thing but relative to the bikes available to the thief. You also don't have any explanation for why I've been able to keep a bike for 20 years (2 bikes in the last 10 epic bike stealing years) at major urban university without a single attempt or problem. You claim it won't work but it has. It's hard to argue with success but you seem to want to. Ok..... I know it's hard to accept alternative solutions sometimes.
The reality is that most bikes stolen are taken for a quick turn on cash for illicit sale to often support a drug habit. When you lock it more securely than the bikes around you, and when there has to be a time and maybe money investment in making your bike sellable, guess what? They pick another bike. Very few bikes get double locked. Far fewer bikes get double locked and have high quality pit locks. Virtually no thieves will invest money in new seat bolts, skewers or other parts that they need to put the bike back together after the science project of taking it apart. The deterrent to theft is inconvenience with respect to other alternatives.
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FWIW, the pit locks that I use and advocated for I don't believe are any of those you listed. There are many brands of these and some of them can be easily defeated with a vice grips. Those are not the ones that I have. Choose wisely.
Yes, true - if you absolutely don't want your bike stolen, keep it with you at all times. There are a lot of times when that's not possible. For those times, there's some pretty good solutions. It is most definitely not a case that there is no locking strategy that works. But, as always, you do you.
I don't give a rats arse about why your bike was never stolen Mr Argumentative, just like I don't care mine wasn't stolen using just a simple cable lock at a major Los Angeles college when other bikes were being stolen, and my bike, while not top of the line, it was a really good middle of the road bike, and plenty of those types were getting stolen because they were easier to sell or fence. I've told you that before and you still don't fathom the idea. I've also locked my bike up for years working in Los Angeles office buildings and the bike is outside parked, locked with the same cable lock, a lock I still have today, which means it's been locking up my bikes for over 40 years, explain that! You can't, just like I can't explain yours other than just plain dumb luck.
And while you keep going on and on about bikes being stolen for drugs, a lot of these guys are pro bike thieves, and as a pro they can overcome any kind of lock you come up with. We haven't even talked about the ability some of these guys have at picking locks.
So, I don't get hung up chasing your stupid senseless argumentative nature I am not responding to any more of your nonsense about this post...I admit, not all that you said is nonsense, in fact I agree with it, but you constantly attacking me about NOTHING, is ridiculous and immature, and by me responding the way you would like me to respond, would make me no better than you.