Doesn't apply to my wife nor me. Guess we've been lucky in that the saddles we've tried worked for us without going thru a bunch. We are not long distance riders (usually under 30 miles) and we ride both road and off-road bikes. All of our saddles do have a cut out except my wife's mtn bike ('98 Kona Lava Dome) which has an ancient Advent with springs (don't know the model of saddle).