Story time, my father had an old Jamis Aurora and just a year ago I restored it back to life for him since I was working at a bike shop for a brief stint. He rides that bike again and says his wrists get tingly after 5 minutes, we have him try a new Jamis Hudson with a much more upright geometry, and really just apples and oranges in terms of feel. He got the new bike and gave me the old Aurora! I have high hopes for that build as I plan on completely stripping the paint and starting from scratch. It'll be my first attempt at a full scale custom paint job and full part assembly but I am really looking forward to starting here soon.