Thanks for the quick responses and the photos. I already have a Birdy, this gives me a basis for comparison. I was considering the Pacific Reach which isn't a true folder but has some good qualities but the price has jumped considerably since Covid. I was going to see if I could pick one up traveling through Asia but am moving away from that idea. The Helix might be a possible goal but the price is right up there with the Reach. Except with it's location in Canada and some deliveries happening might be more available than a Reach which has no distributor in the US. I'll track it's development progress and if production picks up, and they clear their back log of initial backers, I might get one. Unless something better comes along in that time.
I looked at the new Tern BYD since I already have two other Terns but that price point at $3K was ridiculous.