[QUOTE=jackb;22579936]
Originally Posted by
cyclintom
I tried to keep up with all of the latest fads. I ended up with top end carbon bikes and to tell you the truth most of them rode like garbage. I am not a pro-racer and I'm not going fast enough to smooth the bumps out with speed. Then they started making carbon bikes for people who just tide. These carbon bikes are pretty light but to tell you the truth my bike and body weigh a little over 210 lbs. and changing this weight by a couple of percent as a normal sports rider doesn't make a detectable difference in climbing or riding on the flats.
A matter of opinion, of course. Many people ride carbon and do not think they "rode like garbage," whatever that means. Ride the the bikes you like. It's that simple.
I've been riding for over 40 years. I have a pretty fair idea of what rides like garbage and what doesn't. A Canyon that requires 28 mm tires in order to keep from breaking Zipp rims is probably a little hard riding. My Time Edge. could not be ridden with 23 mm tires on it if you valued your crotch though with 28's it was a nice solid bike. Columbus did a test where they made a lot of identical bikes out of their tubing series. Then they asked Pro's to ride the bikes and report what they thought. Every one of the pro's selected the bike made from Thron tubing, But Columbus continued recommending their top line rather than Thron. My opinion of SLX bikes were that they were junk. My opinion on most of the early carbon bikes was likewise. When you started pushing it and it would steer itself that is not a fine handling bike. If you couldn't push it to the point that it would bend and steer itself does that mean that it was a good bike because it was adequate for you? I just came back from a ride with 2200 feet of climbing. One of the people in that group was a teenager with a single speed steel bike with a 53-13.. How many people could ride that? because he could does that make it a good bike?
What I'm saying is that because you personally like a bike doesn't mean that it is a good bike.