Originally Posted by cyclintom

I've been riding for over 40 years. I have a pretty fair idea of what rides like garbage and what doesn't. A Canyon that requires 28 mm tires in order to keep from breaking Zipp rims is probably a little hard riding. My Time Edge. could not be ridden with 23 mm tires on it if you valued your crotch though with 28's it was a nice solid bike. Columbus did a test where they made a lot of identical bikes out of their tubing series. Then they asked Pro's to ride the bikes and report what they thought. Every one of the pro's selected the bike made from Thron tubing, But Columbus continued recommending their top line rather than Thron. My opinion of SLX bikes were that they were junk. My opinion on most of the early carbon bikes was likewise. When you started pushing it and it would steer itself that is not a fine handling bike. If you couldn't push it to the point that it would bend and steer itself does that mean that it was a good bike because it was adequate for you? I just came back from a ride with 2200 feet of climbing. One of the people in that group was a teenager with a single speed steel bike with a 53-13.. How many people could ride that? because he could does that make it a good bike?

What I'm saying is that because you personally like a bike doesn't mean that it is a good bike.