timtak

I get a lot of that but it is really not what I think. I find that something works for me, and I don't think I am special, so I guess that it will work for some others so I share it.

I feel I do see "magic bullets" to which you refer. I like the videos of Durianrider, a youtuber, a bit but the way in which he promotes carbohydrate consumption ("carb the **** up") like it is a magic bullet, that disturbs me.

As I just wrote I see that the Cobb-Robbie style is only going to interesting to perhaps 10% of people on bikes for reasons such as
1) Traffic (the Cobb-Robie style will not work well in traffic because it reduces field of view)
2) Wanting to see the scenery (likewise)
3) Off road (likewise things to bump into)
4) When one can't bend over due to back problems
5) When one knows that ones belly is not going to go.
6) Wanting to ride in groups (criteriums, pelotons, groups of all sorts)

Nevertheless, I think that there is a large number of riders that could be doing, or aiming for, the Cobb-Robbie style but do not seem to be. So I wish to spread the good news.


First of all well done.
Secondly why would you not share your good news?
Or, not you give the reason, because your new is contrary to the advice given by doctors, nutritionists, trainers and laypeople, does that mean you should not share? I think not. I want to know your way.



I'd like you to share anyway. I think that humans are not all that individualised. Their are loads of differences and loads of similarities. People can pick and choose. Success stories are always valuable, imho, even if they are only applicable to you.

Unsolicited advice? This is a forum, a place for sharing good news. It will sometimes apply to someone else and in very rare occasions it will apply to no one else.

Simultaneously, there are lots of people on these forums saying this is how it is and that is nonsense, horse**** etc and that is better than sharing your successes because it is individual? I can not agree.

I am aware that there are health obese people and affirmed the research presented that supported that assertion. I am also of the belief that obesity tends to negatively affect health. And I also believe that some people would rather not be obese in any event.

​​​​​​Ad homimen (attacking the person) may well be relevant, and in the case of my alcoholism, I am as I stated grateful for it. Where does the "supposed" come from?

You may be right about my alcoholism affecting my appreciation of safety. As someone that lives somewhat dangerously that my pervert my appreciation of what is and is not safe.

I don't think it affects my appreciation of comfort, especially since I don't ride my bike when I have been drinking but, maybe you are right. Does my consumption of alcohol make me think that riding like Robbie is not uncomfortable? I will ponder on this. It seem unlikely.

Ha. Yeah, you tell me!

[QUOTE=livedarklions;22588973]you want to argue that solo riders will be faster on your stupid bikes, go right ahead. [?QUOTE]
I am not so sure about faster. I find that I am myself faster. The main thing I want to suggest is that people will motivated to put our more watts over a longer period of time as is experienced when riding solo.

And as I have been asked more than once, 'why not put out the watts with ones chest parachute?' My response is that riding low can result in a bit more speed, or at least the feeling of speed, whereas heating the atmosphere results in nothing that we can perceive and can feel meaningless.


Then my suggestions are not for you. That is okay, for you, and for me, and the world.

You may be right, to an extent. Hmm....heft. I like the word "heft." A few things
1) I started this to combat my obesity and that remains my main (but not only) motivation. Speed, watts, style, whatever, are fun, but all secondary. I want to remain not-too-fat and I have in the past at least achieved this through the method I propose.
2) I do think that obesity is a mind blowingly big problem. There have been 1 million deaths from Covid in the past approximately 2.5 years. But in the same time there have been almost that number of deaths from obesity according to 1999 research, and the high number of deaths from COvid in the US are also partly due to the high prevalence of obesity.
3) I think that death is only a very small part of the problem of obesity. It can affect quality of life for many (but not all) people in many ways. It is often like, for me (but not sumo wrestlers and many others) a dimming of the lights of life (in my case), a sort of viscosity of life, making movement slower, many things more dangerous, often social appraisals less positive (in my case), and self appraisals less positive (in my case).
4) I don't know too many ways of reducing obesity. Giving up alcohol would be one, it is true. When I went to Australia about 15 years ago the only group of people, or category of people (other than perhaps East Asian Australians) that I noticed that looked non obese were the road bike cyclists.

Take my writing in any way you like or don't read it at all but if you tell me "do not write", I am sorry but respectfully, I am going to ignore that request.

I saw that coming and used the words " the main indicator" in an attempt to fend off "the only thing" criticism, but I failed. Was my "lecture" insufficiently clear? Did you read my "lecture"? I like to think I am reading your lecture.

I do. Robbie seems to. Lance Armstrong and Greg Lemond paid for his advice.

Do you mean 36cm wide bars? I would like some. I replaced the 42 on my Trek with some 38cm bars but I would have preferred thinner, ideally flared so as to get the variation provided by road bike bars in vertical dimension in the horizontal dimension also.
I am sorry I don't understand. It is my impression that bars have got wider but I am not sure what 66-42 even means. Sorry.



First of all, I wish folks would use "Cobb's setsup" more because I am just some "idiot" etc whereas Cobb is a world renown coach.
Secondly I am not sure how Cobb's set up is incompatible with the narrower set up that you are suggesting, particularly because I like to go, and often go narrow, using a very short tri bar on my road bike, using the bars with bend elbow, and using inward pointing brifters. Low and narrow is good, imho.

I think that all the pro teams use wind tunnels, and that they ride in teams. They ride in teams. They ride in teams. Their set up is set up to facilitate riding in teams. They also ride in break always about, or less than 5% of the time. I always, that is to say, always, ride on my own in a break away on a time trial always always always. But the pros get wheeled out all the time, though the ride in a very different way to me and almost all the amateurs I see.

Why do you show me a picture of a person urinating. Do you have not better picture?

Tim