Old 07-27-22 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostRider62
You are wrong and don't have a clue what the others are saying. Try reading about training zones and focus on energy systems. Stress was used to denote the effect metabolically. Not the stress of weight. The original research related to bicycling was about 1991 with Coyle and Coggan who I believe was his post grad student at the time. The effect of higher intensities places a much higher training stress than the same work done over longer period of time despite having the same energy expenditure. This is beyond refute. The weight lifting example was a simple way to communicate that concept and was not a bad one.
Uh, huh, where did I say anything about varying time? I'm making the very obvious point that if you go faster for the same effort on another bike, you increase the distance to maintain the same effort over the same amount of time. I very clearly said increasing resistance increases effort per MILE, I would hope you would recognize that that is a measure of distance, not time.

Track back the thread a couple posts to see what I was reacting to. The variable determining the intensity of the workout is your effort and the quote I was initially "corrected" for with weight lifting nonsense was agreeing with caloso's statement that 250 watts for a minute was the same intensity whether it was on a heavy bike or a super light bike. You'll notice that I said you could do the exact same intensity on the lighter bike as on the heavy. The weight lifting analogy doesn't fit because it doesn't refute at all that one minute at 250 watts is the same effort and intensity no matter what bike.

I'll accept your apology for putting words in my mouth about time now.
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