Glad I asked, thanks guys Komoot is a good in between solution I think, the Edge looks real good. My phone is not water proof and the gps tracking is very poor, it works well with Waze (no good for bike routes) and that is about it. I have a de-googled phone and that is probably part of the problem also.
If anyone actually uses any of these computers and wants to weigh in I would love the comments, I do not plan to buy anything this month, I am in the thinking stage right now. But I will pull the trigger on something sometime, and I'll let you know how it goes.