Originally Posted by
Atlas Shrugged
As a certified welder and journeyman Tool & Die Maker (5 year apprenticeship) who has spent decades in custom metal fabrication there is nothing special about frame building and especially fillet brazing. The fact that there are one and two week courses that teach it to complete neophytes pretty well explains it. You never see fillet welds in Aerospace, nuclear, high pressure or any other areas which require certification. Frame Building is much like the Wizard of Oz a lot of marketing and superfluous fuss yet nothing special behind the curtain.
Yeah I mean I hate to say I agree with the general sentiment, just not the delivery. I've been through it too - learn about framebuilding and you find out there's a ton of lore, fuss, and mystique that doesn't amount to much. BUT (and here's the big but) you mostly hear the false lore and fuss from insecure beginners and those who've never held a torch and don't understand the process. Not the really good builders.
On the other hand, there's a lot of shade being thrown around in this thread. It's not nice of you to put down framebuilders, especially my friends posting in this thread. The guys posting the aero frames with the huge fillets are just fans of one style, so they didn't deserve to be cut down either, and that wasn't you. Whatever, it's all fine.
Here's what I don't get though. Why'd you do this rant in response to Gugie? He's on our side, man! Doing honest comparisons using quantitative techniques. Taking the mystique and fuss right out of it. Aren't you sorta agreeing with him? It doesn't even seem like you are being a troll, since you haven't been back to goad us.
I know that your post is weeks old, an eternity in the world of the internet, and you're probably off to greener pastures than this thread by now. I just wanted to mention it, in case you ever came back around. You're right, but so is [MENTION=381793]gugie[/MENTION] .
I'll stop now.