Not to derail the conversation BUT recently I was looking for a new pair of shoes. I had it narrowed down to the Torch and the S-Phyre. I was all set to plunk down the cash on the Torch shoes but the S-Phyre's went on sale for $150 off retail. That was enough to sway my purchasing dollars over to Shimano. After almost 1,000km of riding with the S-Phyre shoes, I find them very comfortable. They hold my feet snug and seem to have good ventilation. If the Specialized shoes don't workout for you, I suggest giving the S-Phyres a look.