Originally Posted by
ibcosmo
Hello, answered all of above questions in a long post but doesn't look like it posted. So I will post again. I bought a 1982 Della Santa in 2019 from what I was told original owner. The bike had never been built, person I bought it from said a person in Texas was selling a 1983 Pogliaghi with all Campy record and super record components. I was trying to build the Della Santa period correct so Pogliaghi worked great. Everything swapped over fine and bike worked great. At 71 years old and living in the hill-mountains the 52-42 chainrings with 13-26 freewheel was a little tough. Decided to convert to a triple. Ordered a Redclover 40 tooth chainring that allows a third inner chainring to be mounted to it. It is a Campy record crank set that I'm converting. Now the weird stuff. Didn't really pay attention when swapping bottom bracket from Pogliaghi to Della Santa. When I needed a longer BB spindle to make triple spacing work I researched the forum and found what had worked for other people. Seemed a spindle length of 124mm was right. So I assumed from all I read I had a 68mm BB shell. So i found a Campy MTB BB that had English threaded cups (just needed spindle so not to concerned about cup threads ). So pull the Campy spindle out of Della Santa and it's a 70-ss spindle with 115mm length. I have a friend been in bike business for over 50 years a friend of Rolland Della Santas fo over 30 years. He sold Pogliaghi's in the 1980's. He said Rolland used Italian BB shells on his frames as did Pogliaghi. I should have stated earlier the BB is French threads 35x1 stamped on Campy cups.That should be a 68mm shell width from all I have read. The spindle that came out of the Pogliaghi and into the Della Santa is marked 70-ss. Nobody I've talked to has ever heard of French threads and a 70mm BB shell. The BB shell on the Della Santa is a Cinelli BB shell. So lets say industry standard not some off brand knockoff. The Campy MTB spindle was a 68-ss and 124mm length. Not what I needed but assembled the BB with the MTB spindle to check the spacing of chainring from chainstay. When installing the left side cup I could get it adjusted correctly but minimal threads outside of BB shell for the lockring to engage. I was able to start lockring and actually tight it. I mainly did this so I could check spacing and if the Campy super record derailleurs would handle the triple setup. Everything worked, I rode half of the Death Ride this year with this setup. It isn't right and jury rigged at best so that's why I'm looking for a Campy record 70-ss x 124mm length spindle so it's done right. Someone replied about Rollands relationship with Greg LeMond. When I bought the Della Santa frame the owner sent me a few pictures of Greg Lemond holding the Della Santa frame over his head. It was at the annual bike expo circa 2000-2001. I was pretty stoked to get pictures.
If you're
absolutely sure a 5S 70mm spindle is the spindle you need, this eBay vendor appears to have it. Not an endorsement of the source; I have no connection with them other than once having done business with them. I ran across the listing looking for another fairly hard-to-find square taper spindle recently (ended up going with a different source).
https://www.ebay.com/itm/393781442919
They're in the UK, so shipping cost is borderline obscene.
They list both 5SS (34/54/37.5, 122.5mm overall - doesn't add up correctly, but that's what they list) and 5S (35/54/37.5, 126.5mm overall) spindles as being currently available. 5-coded spindles should be for a 70mm shell.
No info on manufacturer or taper for these spindles in the listing, so you might want to inquire before purchasing. Wrong taper could pose issues with either chainline or crank fit.
Edited to add:
This source also lists 5S (but not the 5SS) as being available. (Per a spec sheet I have, the 5S has the same DS length as the 5SS but a slightly longer NDS side.) They're in the US, so shipping isn't as expensive as the UK vendor. Like the UK vendor's listing, there's no info on manufacturer of first spindle (second is Hatta) or taper for either spindle in the listing so an inquiry might be prudent.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/403840253946
https://www.ebay.com/itm/394206156340
I've bought an item or two from the vendor, but have no other connection to the firm.