Originally Posted by
jonathanf2
I've looked at those and they don't really appeal to me, They remind me of my SPD-SL pedals I have laying around. I might as well ride those to get better foot retention and carry my cleat covers with me when walking.
I’m not sure I follow what you’re saying here, particularly vis-a-vis your OP, but maybe the 286g Shimano A600, which has an extended body (compared to ES600) might be of interest.
I’ve had them for many years, used them for winter gravel riding, and like them, although they’re not really suited for pedaling on the underside, unclipped, if that’s what you want to do.
It’s almost easier, because of the pedal weighting, to just hit the topside with the shoe toe and stay out of the clip, at least that’s what I’ve found with my stud-mount equipped Northwave Celsius Arctics. I can’t recall exactly, since I don’t need to ride unclipped very often, but the unclipped grip between that shoe and pedal is pretty decent.