I never really checked. I just checked a couple of my favorite bikes and the reach seems to be a bit long by the "elbow to finger tip method. I have a short torso but very long legs and my bikes (the larger ones) feel comfy the way they are. I will try shortening the distance up a bit by moving the saddle forward , easy enough to move back if it doesn't make the bike more comfy. I find it interesting that all my bikes (again the large ones) are very close to the same! The exception is the shorter 60cm bikes I have. The shorter bikes are definitely not as comfortable as the taller , 62-64cm bikes.