A real stretch? What is such a stretch about not assigning gender to a bike frame? There is no hate attached to my comment and it is sad that that is all your mind can think of when presented with a logical argument. I am sorry you feel that those who chose to identify as "men" cannot ride on a step through frame because it is for "women" because of silly outdated gender notions. It must suck living in such a world where you have to categorize everything by gender and make all these silly little compartments for everyone and keep them separate because you don't want to upset the binary.

No hate just posting on a online bike forum using text with no emotion attached. If all you can see is hate well that is on you. I am having fun, enjoying myself as I enjoy BikeForums it is a fun place to talk about bikes and have discussions like this and many others. I am sorry you aren't having the same fun.

Just one final useful note: if you are going to respond use the @ symbol and then the persons name like roadcrankr no need to make up names if you want to respond directly to someone and not quote them. Though there is a restaurant in Philadelphia called Vedge that was quite delicious when I had the opportunity passing through Philly years ago. I highly recommend it.