Kontact was out of stock even though there were only two saddles on their site. I looked at those Berthoud saddles and nearly pulled the trigger on one of them but ended up going with this:

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/ph...=232610-156590

the return policy is good and since i do a fair amount of riding on the aero bars i thought i'd try out the cutout section. read that the leather cutout versions don't last as long as the non cutout versions.

i don't even know if the cutout version will make any difference but i't like to give it a spin. should know in a week or two.