Originally Posted by
Leisesturm
Right now the torque sense system worries you because you have no experience with it. If you got one you would figure it out just like you did the one you have. I have a TongShen motor on a cargo bike project that has stalled. David Hall has put a lot of time in designing systems that work well for a lot of people. I don't think you can get 250W even if that's all you want. Go big, or go home they say. Overkill is rarely a problem. You usually get a better built product and since you aren't pushing it to it's limits you get excellent performance and longevity.
Edit: I have heard it from too many different sources to continue arguing with it: torque systems are very easy to use. 'Natural' for want of a better word. You just ride like you always have. Start off with a low level of assist like you like to do and if it isn't enough you will know. It will probably be fine. To go faster you gear up. If your speed drops (going uphill) then gear down like you would (should) add more power. It will do that automatically anyway but there will be times when that won't be enough and you don't want to bog the motor. That's another reason to get the 500W motor. It can take some bogging at low speeds. Edit 2: Flats? Flats have not crossed my mind in a very long time. I don't carry tubes, patches or pumps on commute or errand rides because I have invested in tires known to be highly flat resistant. With a motor you shouldn't have to worry about the ride performance of tires like Schwalbe Marathon Pluses and if you wanted to put Rhynodillo or Mr. Tuffy tire liners in a Continental Gatorskin tire you would have an essentially flat proof tire. FWIW.
Lol, regarding flats....I have a marathon plus on my rear tire and have gotten 2 flats. just bad luck and too much construction crap in the streets. i have rhinodillos on my two front tires now, after a bunch of flats, but front tire flats are a 2 minute fix so no big deal. On a tadpole trike they are super easy. The rear is a pita however and not fun at all and my muscle weakness makes remounting the wheel challenging sometimes.
i am probably being super cautious because this is my only means of transportation, my car basically, and that coupled with my medical situation means I can't get it wrong. With a cadence based hub system, getting a too powerful system makes it impossible to reduce the assist enough to get real resistance and exercise - it becomes more like a moped. i'm getting from what you said that this would not apply to a torque system? i'm looking at this one:
Eco+ TSDZ2B with Open Source Firmware (250w-750w+)