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Old 01-30-23 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Kontact
I'm not trying to reinvent how set back is defined as much as find a more reliable method to place a rider in that traditional location using more reliable metrics.

And I think KOPS is less reliable because the white male population is less likely to be as diverse as the world population of both sexes. That hardly seems like a radical position to take. KOPS was never universal, but it probably works more often on the population it was extracted from.


Thank you for validating my hypothesis with an example of someone doing almost exactly what I described using the same angle number. Clearly I'm thinking along the right lines.
Yeah I think your approach is sensible as it should work for pretty much any height of rider. Regarding population diversity, the same fitter didn't find women to be significantly different to men in terms of their leg proportionality. What he did find was that women generally preferred their saddle 3-5 mm lower than men for the same leg length. He put that mainly down to women having smaller feet for the same leg length.
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