Originally Posted by Roughstuff

"human piloted automobiles of low occupancy are an INCREDIBLY inefficient way to get people around, and i believe induced demand is very real, so we need to start with policies/goals that discourage the use of private automobiles to the extreme."

Buses ---the favorite hobby horse of the mass transit crowd--- with low occupancy are even more incredibly inefficient. Not only are they longer, wider, and higher than almost any vehicle on the road, they make frequent stops in the very lanes, and crossing the very lanes, that we cyclists seem to think should be sacrosanct for us.