I just ordered a set of the non-tubeless 5000s to replace some well worn 4000s that were fantastic. Those 4000s were the most satisfying tires I have ever had on any bicycle. They were easy to mount, rode great and had outstanding puncture resistance. I have picked a lot of pieces of glass, metal and rocks out of these tires. The protection belt does its job. Hopefully these won't be too hard to mount.