it can start on the 18th whenever everyone wants it to, and the meeting place can be anyplace anyone wants. i will be away on saturday most of the morning and back by the afternoon, but might not be in for a ride that day. sunday the 19th is best for me, however the places in my neighborhood that i have to share with you all will be closed. but, just you all can certainly have the saturday ride whenever you all want and wherever you all want, so long as everyone agrees. on the first page and second page we sort of had a signup list of neighborhoods and people to be the "guides" for those 'hoods... but this was weeks ago. perhaps you guys all want to start shouting out which 'hoods you will take and then you can all organize yourselves and figure out the when's and where's of it all.

i have 'dibs' on the tenderloin.