Originally Posted by VintageSteelEU

It seems the chainstays are a bit longer than on typical touring frames. What I'm actually thinking about is building a city bicycle that can withstand a bit of weight on the rack without being a bulky longtail bike. Something I can actually carry on my shoulder up some stairs if need be. And something that's obviously made of decent lugged steel I'll have to do some trawling and have a look at Panasonic and maybe Koga Miyata models from the early to mid 80's