Originally Posted by sir_crash_alot

I think they're probably made in China (can't immediately find any verification, but signs point to this). That being said, I would voice this opinion: Chinese-made != bad necessarily. All frames (and I would argue, people) deserve to be evaluated on their merits, rather than their point of origin.

So one thing I'd like to push back against in this thread is the "oh they're cheap and Asian made they must be junk" narrative, particularly if one hasn't used or ridden the frame before, or even held one in their hands. Will I buy one sight unseen? No. But I also won't trash one prematurely over the internet.