Originally Posted by ppg677

So yes, I am considering the Endurace. I remain torn between the R8000 and the 105 Di2. I do see myself selling stock wheels and upgrading to carbon wheels with either bike.

The bikes weigh about the same. And price premium for 105 Di2 is now $600.

Part of me likes the appeal of mechanical simplicity and not worrying about batteries now or in the future. I've always appreciated analog/mechanical things in life.

Part of me sees the appeal of going 12-speed electronic because of those who say it is da sh&t.