Originally Posted by
Reddleman
The linear size (height plus width plus length) of the Vello at 165cm is surprisingly less than a standard bi-fold 20” wheeled folder - are there other folders with matching wheel size that beat that other than probably a Birdy with larger wheels?
Pacific Cycles claims that the folded size of the Birdy R20 11SP with 20"/ETRTO406 wheels is: 61cm(H) x 33cm(W) x 72cm(L) = 166cm linear.
But the folded sizes announced by manufacturers are just indicative because several adjustments like the saddle and seatpost and options (rear rack for instance) modify this folded size.
Sometimes these folded size are optimistic sometime pessimistic (look at the difference in announced folded size of the Birdy from Pacific Cycles that gives a naked Birdy folded size and Riese & Müller that gives a fully equipped with mudguards folded size with the seatpost turned in the setback position) !
Also with several folding bikes just removing the saddle+seatpost (which is sometime very easy+quick sometime like on the Brompton intentionally quite difficult) reduces significantly the folded size.
So if anybody needs a small linear size, the only solution is to measure its own bike and if needed try to reduce it with some quick dismounting like saddle+seatpost, different (folding or removable) pedals, removing some accessories like mudguards, rear rack...