Originally Posted by
cat0020
I don't know what "Endless sphere" is, but if qualification for ebike vs e-moped are blurred and problems are caused due to confusion between the two;
then discussions should be encouraged to educate more people about the difference between ebikes vs e-mopeds, especially on public forums.
If folks are using these lower cost ($2K), high powered ebikes for everyday transportation,
does that really upset the class 1, 2, 3 ebike folks that need $400 car rack just to transport their ebikes to ride them?
If it's an electric motorcycle, this isn't a motorcycle forum. People also use motorcycles for transportation every day. I'm not going to go back through this thread and see which ones are appropriate or not. I'm not too concerned about overpowered ebikes, as long as we don't get into speed contests on the bike path. But bikes without pedals are off topic.
I'm a little surprised that you haven't heard of endless sphere. They host lots of alternate transportation content. But it's pretty common over there to have people post videos of themselves going way too fast on bike paths and getting arrested for having unlicensed electric motorcycles. People with class 1,2,3 ebikes and care about preserving the good deal we have gotten under the law are rightfully worried about people riding electric motorcycles that bear a passing resemblance to ebikes. I don't know if you were around for the moped boom in the '70s, but they were big for a couple of years and then lawmakers killed them off. Lots of bike shops with unsellable inventory. I don't think this will happen to ebikes, but it could. There are big money interests that wouldn't mind killing them, and the bike industry can't compete with that. All it would take is a few more high-profile deaths of teenage riders and there could be a problem.