Originally Posted by
Trakhak
Some interesting assertions. I can't square them with what I see here, with riders on bikes with zero-reach stems, etc.
I believe those bikes have different geometry as well, and trail is probably a key factor in the handling of the bike. But the more I read these responses, the more I realize that I was indeed (as someone here put it) only thinking of drop bar road bikes and not one of the many other types of bikes, some of which are designed to have shorter stems.