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Old 08-25-23 | 11:15 AM
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SkinGriz
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Bikes: BigBox bikes.

Originally Posted by john m flores
Motorcycles can be ridden without counter-steering too, at parking lot speeds or when navigating slowly through technical terrain. I once tested a three-wheeled leaning scooter. One of the features was a lockout of the leaning function at traffic lights so that you did not have to put your foot down when stopped. When the light turned green, if you accelerated very slowly, the scooter would crawl forward perfectly vertical, and if your wheel was pointed slightly to the right, the scooter would move in that direction. In other words, not countersteering. Once you hit 5mph or so, the lockout stopped and the bike was free to lean again and from that point on it was countersteering.

Bicycles behave similarly. When you're on a mountain bike picking the best line through a field of softball sized rocks, you're not countersteering. When you've taken that first half pedal stroke, you're not countersteering. When you're slowing to a stop and aiming the bike towards a bike rack, you're not countersteering. But once you've achieved a speed above walking pace, whether you realize it not, you're countersteering.
IOW, a trike that was forced to steer as a car, steered as a car.
As soon as it was allowed to steer with lean, it did.

You know… bikes with training wheels don’t need to be counter steered. Bikes with training wheels don’t steer like bikes.

”I can make a 3 wheel vehicle steer like a car.”

Not applicable to bikes.
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