It's not surprising so may pro riders are tilting the saddle down as sheesh, look at the height differential from bar to saddle on Froome's bike, it's massive. If the saddle was pointed up it would be painful, as it is for anyone when the tilt is too high. The super low bar thing is just the latest trend of pro cycling where aerodynamics is now their version of the "new/latest frontier" that they can sell to the public..... hah hah .