Originally Posted by
Classtime
My wife can cruise at 15mph below her ventilatory threshold and we ride together. She’s a runner and does many training runs at 7.5mph. If she could only manage cycling at 9mph, she wouldn’t want to ride with me or me with her. We would do something else together like yoga or bird watching. I post in this thread, on the the 50+, because I qualify and have experience to share. There is an electric bike forum because bikes with motors are not bicycles despite what Madison Ave. has you believe. This thread should be moved. Some e-bikers are confident in their laziness and some are very defensive with regard to their pretension of cycling. You do you.
E-bikes are bicycles whether you want to accept that or not. A heart rate of 170bpm indicates that most people are exerting themselves and people do attain heart rates of 170bpm and higher on e-bikes. Yours is the contrarion and outlier attitude and it would be moderation that determines whether a thread needs to be moved or not. When I ran I did many of my training runs at 10mph. I'm not sure how it would help me to train at 7.5mph because that is the speed my partner can maintain. I'm not sure why you dragged running into a cycling discussion because it makes it hard to discuss things intelligently. Is that your objective? Confuse the issue enough so you win on experience at deflection, misdirection? If an e-bike allows a slower (usually) female cyclist to maintain the speed of a faster partner or for both to reach a distant picnic spot in less time, why do you care so much? Treadmills have motors! It's been decades and decades since the days when they didn't. Would you want to go back to those days? Maybe, but most of humanity would not and they wouldn't waste as much time as I have already arguing with you about it. Things change.