all the wheelsmiths have talked too have ben telling me with current rims the wheels are far stronger then they used to be. since there are few choices of getting hubs with more hone 32 holes its going to have to be. I need a 148 rear hub and there is nothing in 36 or up spokes. I went to the top wheel smith in portland for my 32 spoke cliffhanger wheel. He knows that rim well and we will see.