Originally Posted by
veganbikes
I am aware of Shimano's line up Tourney and Claris are junk Sora is mediocre and Tiagra has improved but 105 is actually a good solid entry level groupset. I don't consider the bottom end to be entry level. Entry level should be good reliable components that function well not just the cheap junk that is at the bottom end.
Yes a Trek is expensive you pay good money for it to say Trek on it. Typically a rim brake road bike is around $1500 though that varies especially these days with so much going towards discs and in some cases it is downgraded to Tiagra.
It sounds like we have different definitions of "entry level". I believe entry level is supposed to be less expensive equipment so the person doesn't fret about the investment needed to try something out that they may or may not like.
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