Hi Road Fan, I'm glad to hear that you are not having problems with nosed saddles. I didn't have problems until suddenly after decades of riding them, I did. The saddle that has been a revelation to me is the Spiderflex saddle made in Canada. I had ignored it at first and tried several different brands of noseless saddles. In desperation due to sitz bone/skin issues I tried one. This saddle has small rectangular openings right where the sitz bones are on the saddle. This has the effect of lowering the lbs per square inch on the skin under the sitz bones. This totally solved saddle sores I had been getting for decades. No special lubricant, or underwear. Just ride in your everyday clothes until you get tired. The saddle openings also somewhat trap your sitz bones and the saddle rides much more like a nosed saddle. Noseless saddles without this feature would slip around and took some getting used to. I don't use saddle setback on my bikes and have about 10" of height to the top of the saddle from top bar top.