Old 12-24-23 | 04:49 PM
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Bikes: Santa Cruz Blur 4 TR, Santa Cruz Hightower, Canyon Ultimate cf slx(x2), Canyon Endurace cf sl(rain bike,) Obed GVR, Ritchey Swiss Cross v3, Lauf Seigla rigid

I like the aesthetic of them, especially with internally-routed cables. That being said...the lack of adjustability is a real turn-off for me. I generally know what I'm looking for in frame geo/numbers, so if I could spec the stem length before I bought it, I wouldn't have an issue with an integrated bar/stem. I'm partial to Canyon, but this isn't an option for them ATM. A new bar/stem is $400 and likely to be out of stock.
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